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		<title>By: Bro. Buddy</title>
		<link>http://www.buddymartin.net/blog/2007/02/28/how-do-you-find-a-good-church/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Bro. Buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris,

I thoroughly enjoyed David's ministry last evening. Love his calm way of sharing. He also has great insights into his subject on offering 'strange fire.'

That young man who led the worship did an awesome job. What a blessing to know that he is only sixteen years old.

Thanks for letting me know about my article on finding a good church. It seems to be making its rounds.

Love you sis,

Buddy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,</p>
<p>I thoroughly enjoyed David&#8217;s ministry last evening. Love his calm way of sharing. He also has great insights into his subject on offering &#8217;strange fire.&#8217;</p>
<p>That young man who led the worship did an awesome job. What a blessing to know that he is only sixteen years old.</p>
<p>Thanks for letting me know about my article on finding a good church. It seems to be making its rounds.</p>
<p>Love you sis,</p>
<p>Buddy</p>
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		<title>By: CHRIS FERRIER</title>
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		<dc:creator>CHRIS FERRIER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BROTHER BUDDY I ENJOYED YOUR LIST OF WAYS TO FIND A GOOD CHURCH.  HOW IRONIC YOU SHOULD TALK ABOUT GOLD AND SILVER BROTHER DAVID TALKED ABOUT THAT IN HIS PREACHING. ABOUT THE ALTER AND BURNING INCENSE AND GOLD.  I LOVE YOU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BROTHER BUDDY I ENJOYED YOUR LIST OF WAYS TO FIND A GOOD CHURCH.  HOW IRONIC YOU SHOULD TALK ABOUT GOLD AND SILVER BROTHER DAVID TALKED ABOUT THAT IN HIS PREACHING. ABOUT THE ALTER AND BURNING INCENSE AND GOLD.  I LOVE YOU</p>
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		<title>By: Bro. Buddy</title>
		<link>http://www.buddymartin.net/blog/2007/02/28/how-do-you-find-a-good-church/#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>Bro. Buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rose, 

Your name is very familiar. When I ask Betty about you, she remembers you very well. Guess if I had a picture my memory would trigger. But I do remember Larry. His mom and dad were our good friends. 

You said: "I remember when you and Sis. Betty came to our church in Leesville."

Boy, was that ever years ago. We left Leesville in 1969 to pastor our first church. 

Rose: "I stumbled upon your web site and I have enjoyed it so much. Some of your insights to questions that I have wanted to ask for so long has been so refreshing and uplifting."

Thank you for sharing this. I have a special forum that you may like to look at. Go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DepartingUPC/

Please drop me a line at Buddy@ChristianChallenge.Org. Would love to hear from you.  

Rose: "It is so hard to believe that your children are grown with families of their own. I know that you are so proud of them."

Yes, I am very proud of my kids. We now have ten grand children. 

Rose: "I was sorry to learn that you have been ill, but sounds like you are on the road to recovery. God is really so good."

I'm over the hump on my treatments. I really feel good most all the time. Just a bit of weakness if I overdo things.  

You probably know Cullen Ray Carver. His my mom's brother. He and Lavern came for a visit not long ago. Cullen has always been my favorite uncle. 

Also saw Brother Green not long ago. Lots of water under the bridge since the Leesville days. I do have found memories of the church family there. 

Rose: "I wear my jewelry and make-up, so I am not allowed to participate in too much, but that is o.k. Please pray for us that we will always do the Lord’s will."

We will pray for the Lord's will be fulfilled in your life.  

Thanks Rose. It was so good to hear from you. Hope to hear from you again, real soon.

In Christ,

Buddy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rose, </p>
<p>Your name is very familiar. When I ask Betty about you, she remembers you very well. Guess if I had a picture my memory would trigger. But I do remember Larry. His mom and dad were our good friends. </p>
<p>You said: &#8220;I remember when you and Sis. Betty came to our church in Leesville.&#8221;</p>
<p>Boy, was that ever years ago. We left Leesville in 1969 to pastor our first church. </p>
<p>Rose: &#8220;I stumbled upon your web site and I have enjoyed it so much. Some of your insights to questions that I have wanted to ask for so long has been so refreshing and uplifting.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing this. I have a special forum that you may like to look at. Go to:</p>
<p><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DepartingUPC/" rel="nofollow">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DepartingUPC/</a></p>
<p>Please drop me a line at <a href="mailto:Buddy@ChristianChallenge.Org">Buddy@ChristianChallenge.Org</a>. Would love to hear from you.  </p>
<p>Rose: &#8220;It is so hard to believe that your children are grown with families of their own. I know that you are so proud of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, I am very proud of my kids. We now have ten grand children. </p>
<p>Rose: &#8220;I was sorry to learn that you have been ill, but sounds like you are on the road to recovery. God is really so good.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m over the hump on my treatments. I really feel good most all the time. Just a bit of weakness if I overdo things.  </p>
<p>You probably know Cullen Ray Carver. His my mom&#8217;s brother. He and Lavern came for a visit not long ago. Cullen has always been my favorite uncle. </p>
<p>Also saw Brother Green not long ago. Lots of water under the bridge since the Leesville days. I do have found memories of the church family there. </p>
<p>Rose: &#8220;I wear my jewelry and make-up, so I am not allowed to participate in too much, but that is o.k. Please pray for us that we will always do the Lord’s will.&#8221;</p>
<p>We will pray for the Lord&#8217;s will be fulfilled in your life.  </p>
<p>Thanks Rose. It was so good to hear from you. Hope to hear from you again, real soon.</p>
<p>In Christ,</p>
<p>Buddy</p>
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		<title>By: Bro. Buddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bro. Buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dina,

Wish I knew what to tell you about enlarging the 'responses.' My computer has a button on the lower right where I can do a couple of enlargements. Surely someone closer at hand can help you with this. (I'm not to swift on computer know how.)

You are most welcome for the message. 

Blessings,

Buddy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dina,</p>
<p>Wish I knew what to tell you about enlarging the &#8216;responses.&#8217; My computer has a button on the lower right where I can do a couple of enlargements. Surely someone closer at hand can help you with this. (I&#8217;m not to swift on computer know how.)</p>
<p>You are most welcome for the message. </p>
<p>Blessings,</p>
<p>Buddy</p>
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		<title>By: Rose H. Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose H. Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Bro. Buddy,

I don't know if you remeber me or not.  I was Rose Hilton and married Larry Bruce. I remember when you and Sis. Betty came to our church in Leesville.  I stumbled upon your web site and I have enjoyed it so much. Some of your insights to questions that I have wanted to ask for so long has been so refreshing and uplifting.  

It is so hard to believe that your children are grown with families of their own.  I know that you are so proud of them.  

I was sorry to learn that you have been ill, but sounds like you are on the road to recovery. God is really so good. 

We still attend the Leesville Pentecostal Church.  I am really struggling with some of the so called "standard" issues.  I truly love my church family, but some things I realize now are just not in scriptures.  I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but I just can't agree with some things.  My prayer daily is that I make the right decisions.  I wear my jewelry and make-up, so I am not allowed to participate in too much, but that is o.k.  Please pray for us that we will always do the Lord's will. 

Please tell Sis. Betty that I said "hello".  

Much love and prayers,

Rose</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Bro. Buddy,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you remeber me or not.  I was Rose Hilton and married Larry Bruce. I remember when you and Sis. Betty came to our church in Leesville.  I stumbled upon your web site and I have enjoyed it so much. Some of your insights to questions that I have wanted to ask for so long has been so refreshing and uplifting.  </p>
<p>It is so hard to believe that your children are grown with families of their own.  I know that you are so proud of them.  </p>
<p>I was sorry to learn that you have been ill, but sounds like you are on the road to recovery. God is really so good. </p>
<p>We still attend the Leesville Pentecostal Church.  I am really struggling with some of the so called &#8220;standard&#8221; issues.  I truly love my church family, but some things I realize now are just not in scriptures.  I don&#8217;t want to hurt anyone&#8217;s feelings, but I just can&#8217;t agree with some things.  My prayer daily is that I make the right decisions.  I wear my jewelry and make-up, so I am not allowed to participate in too much, but that is o.k.  Please pray for us that we will always do the Lord&#8217;s will. </p>
<p>Please tell Sis. Betty that I said &#8220;hello&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Much love and prayers,</p>
<p>Rose</p>
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		<title>By: Dina Saenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dina Saenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bro Buddy,

Thank you for this message.  I am learning much.  But the "Responses" are too small for me to read.  Is there a way for me to enlarge the text so I can read it?  Thank you again.
Dina Saenz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bro Buddy,</p>
<p>Thank you for this message.  I am learning much.  But the &#8220;Responses&#8221; are too small for me to read.  Is there a way for me to enlarge the text so I can read it?  Thank you again.<br />
Dina Saenz</p>
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		<title>By: Bro. Buddy</title>
		<link>http://www.buddymartin.net/blog/2007/02/28/how-do-you-find-a-good-church/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Bro. Buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

I used the term "EXCESSIVELY emotional" for a reason. We? all express our worship differently. But when you have churches who continually push the people's emotions to an excess, this is not a good thing. The Bible teaches 'moderation' in all things.

The list I gave was generic. Each point pretty much connects with the whole.

As for singing and dancing this depends on the church tradition. It is not something we should insist on in a church that doesn't practice that form or worship. Every church tradition should be respected for their form of worship.

Thanks for writing.

Buddy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>I used the term &#8220;EXCESSIVELY emotional&#8221; for a reason. We? all express our worship differently. But when you have churches who continually push the people&#8217;s emotions to an excess, this is not a good thing. The Bible teaches &#8216;moderation&#8217; in all things.</p>
<p>The list I gave was generic. Each point pretty much connects with the whole.</p>
<p>As for singing and dancing this depends on the church tradition. It is not something we should insist on in a church that doesn&#8217;t practice that form or worship. Every church tradition should be respected for their form of worship.</p>
<p>Thanks for writing.</p>
<p>Buddy</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the greatest amount of humbleness I would like to comment just a small bit more on your #6, (I agree with all the others, and this one too, to a point. You said,"(6) Avoid churches that are excessively emotional in nature. Emotionalism should never be seen as a sign of spirituality or of maturity. Oftentime it is just the opposite. While we do  rejoice in our emotions, the greater sign of spiritual depth will be a quietness of spirit."  It is my habit to try and never say never. I can assure you that I have been in very emotional churches, and church meetings where the spirit of quietness and the love of God was so great that it put me on my face.  The outward praise, emotional, and "in spirit and truth" gave the little extra push that was needed for the peace that can only come from our Lord.  So while emotional outbursts for the sake of shouting, I call it hound dog preaching, is not what I would look for, if the spirit of God desires us to sing and dance, then I say sing and dance your love for God to the fullest.  In some very mature churches, with a great deal of love for each other, all of the saints, and especially of our Lord what would seem "extreme" emotion happens quite often.  It's the "look at me worship" group I would avoid, and sometimes it takes 2 or 3 visits to determine if that is what is happening.  If it is, move on, I guarantee God has the right church for you!
May Jesus love and keep you all!
 Robert Palmer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the greatest amount of humbleness I would like to comment just a small bit more on your #6, (I agree with all the others, and this one too, to a point. You said,&#8221;(6) Avoid churches that are excessively emotional in nature. Emotionalism should never be seen as a sign of spirituality or of maturity. Oftentime it is just the opposite. While we do  rejoice in our emotions, the greater sign of spiritual depth will be a quietness of spirit.&#8221;  It is my habit to try and never say never. I can assure you that I have been in very emotional churches, and church meetings where the spirit of quietness and the love of God was so great that it put me on my face.  The outward praise, emotional, and &#8220;in spirit and truth&#8221; gave the little extra push that was needed for the peace that can only come from our Lord.  So while emotional outbursts for the sake of shouting, I call it hound dog preaching, is not what I would look for, if the spirit of God desires us to sing and dance, then I say sing and dance your love for God to the fullest.  In some very mature churches, with a great deal of love for each other, all of the saints, and especially of our Lord what would seem &#8220;extreme&#8221; emotion happens quite often.  It&#8217;s the &#8220;look at me worship&#8221; group I would avoid, and sometimes it takes 2 or 3 visits to determine if that is what is happening.  If it is, move on, I guarantee God has the right church for you!<br />
May Jesus love and keep you all!<br />
 Robert Palmer</p>
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